Comments for Sounds like a good idea…but how will PAYS work? at http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk , comment 1 to 9 out of 9 comments http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:35:21 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.3 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-241 David, you're not wrong. Home insulation grants are still available in the UK and will be until mid 2012. - Dan Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:25:39 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-240 @David You're not wrong. Home insulation grants are available in the UK until mid 2012. - Dan Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:23:44 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-183 I may be wrong, but I’m sure there home insulation grants available at the moment to cover the cost of wall insulation and loft insulation. Then again these are useless if your walls are solid and you have a flat roof :( - David Mon, 18 Apr 2011 07:44:12 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-132 At last a great payment method idea that can overcome the finance director's blocking of projects that do save energy. - lee Mon, 30 Aug 2010 08:05:22 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-42 All over the UK there are people trying to survive on very low incomes, many living in the old hard to heat Victorian blocks of flats. There are no cavities in the walls to fill, no lofts, no secondary glazing, no internal insulation, and no funding anywhere to retrofit these buildings. There are all sorts of grants and other help for home owners, some help for local authority housing, but nothing for housing association hard to heat blocks of flats. These residents cannot afford to run their central heating in the winter - new combi boiler or not. They are excluded from every scheme - perhaps because the internal retrofit costs are high. Yet they need it the most. - VStClair Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:33:16 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-13 It would seem that the energy suppliers might be an ideal vehicle for this scheme, simply billing the consumer on the energy bill, probably guaranteeing that the capital charge would always be a little under any energy cost saving made. It would also be easy to add annual servicing, and charge, as a compulsory part of the scheme. No extra administration charge for taxpayers or council tax payers! - Mike Maybury Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:54:41 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-9 We already have the cavity walls filled and the loft at least partially insulated so the next step would be the items requiring large capital input upfront This scheme would be a very big push in the right direction for me in respect of either / both solar water heating or GEHP's for central heating to replace the present methods It appears to be very joined up thinking which probably means it is unlikely to happen. In addition of course the utility companies would put their prices up again just to cover their lost revenue from every body using less gas and electricity - Richard - Birmingham Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:11:47 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-5 Reading the Low Carbon Transitional Plan (time scale up to 2020), I notice that the Department of Energy and Climate Change is only committing to a pilot and is only putting £4m into it whilst it dips its toe cautiously into the water to see if anyone is interested in the 'whole house' approach. This is really quite pathetic. PAYS is an extraordinary and radical idea that has the potential to make a vast difference to saving Carbon usage, and deserves energetic Government support. I would like to see Government take on the funding, not just the underwriting, and manage it along the lines of the student funding initiative. It should make a big announcement, do a high-profile public awareness campaign, and put resouces in to get things moving. As David King said in a recent BBC4 Saving the Earth programme: there ought to be little white vans going out to every home like there was during the change-over to North Sea gas. - Chris Cooke Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:25:43 +0100 http://www.greatbritishrefurb.co.uk/13-sounds-like-a-good-ideabut-how-will-pays-work#comment-3 It's all very well considering maintenance issues for a Passivehaus - as far as energy equipment goes, there won't be any!. However, in the real world of refurbished Victorian terraces, there WILL be energy inputs, usually in the form of a boiler. It's relatively easy to achieve a particular energy-saving target on completion of a refurb project. But a LOT harder to ensure that the improved consumption is sustained across the whole remaining life of the building. In particular, given that most house-owners need a lot of persuasion to even get their boiler serviced annually, and given the awful quality and very limited scope of some of the 'servicing' actually provided, what chance of maintaining the early performance of the energy system? I'd say VERY small, UNLESS the quality of 'energy specialists' doing maintenance improves a lot! - John Brooks Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:17:01 +0100